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RE: [mathlearn]  new question for discussion
Posted:
Jan 30, 2001 6:23 PM


I'm not so sure that our order of operations really is "nonuniversal." Certainly we've agreed on conventions, but I tend to think those conventions are more necessary than arbitrary. My favorite example is an expression like 2+6*5. If I see that as representing two onedollar bills and six fivedollar bills, then to determine how much money I have, I have no choice but to multiply first and then add  otherwise, I'd effectively be converting my ones into fives. (Not that I would mind doing that, come to think of it!) It's for this sort of reason that I think our order of operations conventions are really the only ones we could have arrived at.
On the other hand, it may be possible that we're only willing to write expressions like the above because we've adopted the conventions we have. If we'd adopted others, maybe we just wouldn't write expressions like I have above (or they'd be interpreted differently). So I don't necessarily disagree with Ron either. Maybe someday E.T. will come down and we can ask about the order of operations elsewhere! :)
Mike Kenyon Yakima Valley Community College Grandview, Wash.
> Original Message > From: Ron Ferguson [mailto://rferguso@accd.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:21 AM > To: mathlearn@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [mathlearn]  new question for discussion > > > We must realize that "order of operations" are an arbitrary > convention: no > such ordering is implicit in the field postulates, hence to obtain > "universal?" agreement as to the value each expression should be > wellpunctuated with grouping symbols so that precedence of > dyadic (binary) > operations are nonambiguous. Even monadic (unary) > operations and functions > could benefit from the clarity of precise punctuation. But > few of us are > willing to bear the burden of such notational overhead. > Hence, we adopt an > order of operation convention. > >
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