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Topic: Real World Problems
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Michael South

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Registered: 12/6/04
Re: Real World Problems
Posted: Jun 14, 1995 8:00 PM
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>From: Steve Means <>

I don't suppose that I am adding anything to the discussion
here, but I would like to point out how closely (perhaps exactly)
Steve Means' project mimics real science.

>My students do a long term project as part of their math work. I ask

No real science gets done over night.
>that each student select something to investigate mathematically. The
>topic must be something they have loved for years and expect to love in
>the future.

Most real scientists are in their particular field because they fell in
love with that field at one point.

>Students must develop a strategy for gathering, interpreting
>and presenting data.

Real scientists could call this sentence their entire job description.

>Students must find a mentor, generally an adult
>from the community who works in the field of their interest.

Graduate school, anyone?

>are expected to do some research including at least one source from the

Background research comprises a large percentage of any scientist's time.

>Students are not expected to complete their study, that is, they
>are not expected to limit what they are doing to something they can
>complete in one year. They just must make significant progress. Many
>students continue a project over several years. Many students combine
>their project with work for other classes.

This is the part that really caught my attention. One of the biggest
discrepancies between how science is presented in school and how science
is really done is that most physics, biology, and chemistry lab assignments
are lock-step, prefabricated, artificial and self contained. The only
"joy of discovery" possible is accomplished by the students that deviate
from the assignment in order to try to blow something up or make it smell
really bad. These students, incidentally, are often the ones that go on
to pursue careers in science, because they are the only ones that
figured out that science is exciting.

>Students are expected to keep their classmates advised of their progress
>on their project and to involve their classmates in the project in as
>many ways as possible. Presentations of the project should use as many
>media and methods as possible. Most presentations are interactive.

Another vital part of a scientist's job.

>Because each project is selected as a negotiation between student and
>teacher, the topics are "real" to the students.

Almost like getting a grant, maybe?

Thanks for an inspirational post, Steve! It sounds like your students are
getting a better look at real world science than they could get from
many undergraduate institutions.


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