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Michael Moy (send mail to 11-Jul-1995 0915

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Re: Private Reply
Posted: Aug 5, 1995 9:18 PM
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Eileen Abrahamson wrote:

>Since I appear to be the only actual K-4 teacher who is currently reading
>and responding to the list I would like to respond to this comment. This
>is somewhat how the calculators 'are' used in our K-4 classrooms.

I've taught my son K-5 math so I have some experience though not math classroom

>The students play games such as "Beat The Calculator" inwhich they race to
>perform mental calculations more quickly than the calculator.

I assume that you put a person with the calculator against someone performing
an operation mentally. This type of competition could be done without
calculators as well by having several students compete. What you're really
comparing is the speed and dexterity of one student against the mental speed of

>As a fourth grade teacher I also permitted students to figure out the
>"decimal name" for various fractions. An interesting side effect to this
>was that students performed this operation so frequently that by the end of
>the year they could tell you pretty accurately the "fraction name" for a
>decimal. (This type of inverse learning is typical when students use the
>calculator.) This is a portion of "number sense", the ability to look at a
>fraction and give it an approximate "decimal name" or look at a decimal and
>give it an approximate "fraction name", is hard to find in the general
>population,, but was common for the fourth grader who had been working with
>the calculators.

In the fifth grade text that we used, the material involved converting back and
forth among decimals, fractions, percents, ratios and proportions (in the
section on Ratio, Proportion, and Percent); some simple relationships between
fractions and probabilities in the Statistics, Graphing, and Probability
Section; and the relationship between linear plots and fractions (slope).

Also, simply posting a conversion chart between fractions and decimals could
accomplish the same purpose.

>Again, since I am actually in the K-4 environment and not just an outside
>observer, I have at least 10 years worth of real classroom experience and
>evidence that calculators 'are' infact beneficial in learning math. I will
>however qualify that by saying, at least in our school district, students
>are not using them as a crutch. It would be irresponsible of me, or any
>other teacher for that matter to deprive students of opportunities to
>think, and trust me when I say K-4 teachers would be the 'last group on
>earth' to do this.

The text we use has lots of exercises with calculators although we seldom use
them. We do have calculators around the house (arithmetic, reverse-polish and
algebraic) that our son knows how to use. I like the idea of being able to go
back and forth and agree that calculators are an easier way to do this. But we
typically grind it out using division or going over the actual operations to
find the inverse.

When I was in high school, I had two programmable calculators and I used them
to program games and other mathematical trinkets (along with using them in
science classes). My personal feeling is that teachers should have them
available as tools as they may have particular students that could benefit from
them. I'm interested in the debate because the curriculum committee that I'm on
is stalled (at the school board level) over this issue. We have a ten-year-old
curriculum that staff wants updated, and we also have a new set of standards
from the State of NH (kind of a summary of NCTM and fairly readable). We would
like to use the standards, especially as that's what the state's standardized
tests will probably test on.

Michael Moy

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