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Topic: Re: Fwd: Re: Re: lecturing
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Re: Fwd: Re: Re: lecturing
Posted: Jul 2, 1995 12:38 PM
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I doubt whether teachers in most countries worry so much about whether
students retain 5% or 95% of the lecture. You know why?

Because most every industrialized country (and non-industrialized country for
that matter) has real competency based standardized tests that the students
know they must pass to proceed.

Instead, we fret and wring our hands about whether our students are learning.
(And this is very useful.) But it's amazing how little effort we put towards
"doing business wholesale" which means setting up a system that will motivate
students to learn however the material is placed before them. In these other
countries, you learn or else and the teacher stands on the same side of the
fence to help his/her students.

Discussing these micro issues in America is like Roger Penske debating the
efficacy of a new carburetor on a Lola with flat tires.

Until we light a fire under American kids like they do in most every other
country, we're only rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. And BTW, you
would see teachers really trying to improve their teaching if real student
and teacher accountability was instituted.

If you doubt my position, contemplate how much extra time you put into your
AP kids. There's a real test, real consequences (but even in this case, the
down side is pretty soft).

Let's get real about improving American math education. Doing everything
"retail" ain't gonna' make it.

Dan Hart
San Fernando H.S.
LAUSD "The other absurdity near Bunker Hill"

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