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Bill Taylor

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Re: The need for a well rounded education
Posted: Dec 20, 2002 12:09 AM
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jamesllort@yahoo.com (James Llort) writes:

|> I'm concerned about the narrow view of the world 'hard' science
|> students have these days.

If you want to make fantastic generalizations, there are much more
deserving candidate groups.


|> There's a culture that somehow science is more rational

And so it is.

|> and usefull then the humanitities.

Likewise. ("Useful" has one "l", by the way.)

|> Lecturers encourage students to joke about arts students,

Mea culpa! We are only human after all, not saints.
But sociology gets even more of a caning!

|> and humilaite them whenever possible.

I've never seen this, however. You mean stand them up in front and point scorn?

|> This encourages eliteism,

I think you'll find humanities types are usually more elitist than science types!
Knowing they have the worst of such arguments stirs them to prolong any such
artificial feelings of superiority.

|> and I for one am sick of it.

It's beginning to sound like you're a humanities student.

|> Let's tell it like it is.

Oh yes. It definitely looks like it.

|> 'science' is just as much about opinion as the humanities.

What utter and complete tripe.

|> Research simply follows the fad of the day.

Mein Gott! Here's a humanities type complaining about "the fad of the day"!!

|> Take dieticians for example.

No, you take them. Didn't we start off talking about "hard" sciences?
Dieticians today, irridologists tomorrow.


|> Another example is music. We know what sounds good.

Wow! I admire your confidence. Count me out of your "we"!

|> I know what I like.

Impressive. Not only do I not know anything about music, but I don't even
know what I like!

|> You cannot apply objective reasoning to
|> a subject which is intristically subjective.

Agreed; so why are they teaching it in universities? Or anywhere, come to that.


|> The problem with you technical guys are that you are all so eliteist.

We're not, but if we were, at least we'd have something to be elitist *about*.

|> humanities are focused on making you a well rounded person who is auctually
|> interesting to be with,

They seem to be failing, then. By far the majority of most well-rounded folk
I know are scientists, not humanities folk. I've had far more enlightening
conversations about Shakespeare and Beethoven with fellow scientists, more
than most others. Of course, for students this may not be so; but then
who expects to have a well-rounded conversation with students anyway,
for the most part? I fear you have been diverted by meritriciousness.


|> Really, it makes me so mad

Yes, we gathered that!

|> "oh, he's doing a humanities degree, that's easy".

Well, that's kinda correct. Of course you still have to do work, but it's
the kind of work that anyone with minimal brains and application can do.
You don't actually need any kind of talent, as specialist degrees require.

|> I have to read *3* *books* *a* *week* on average.

Poor dope. You should have learned far simpler exam-passing strategies than
that by now! After all, this is humanities we're talking about; no actual
knowledge or reasoning is required (though admittedly both may help a lot.)

|> improved grammer and spelling skills that are lacking in the technical.
............^^^^^|^ ^^^^^^^^ :)

I bet wine buffoons and art critters have excellent grammar and spelling.

|> I'm going on to so a PhD in socialolgy (sic! socialolgy)

Oh Bog! We shoulda guessed. And I see your spelling is right up there too!

|> where I'll be line for tenure

<snigger>

|> where I have a much more rewarding job then beeing a science freak

You'll meet such *interesting* people at MacDonald's, though!


|> but all great things were done by humanities.

Yep. Pogroms, torture chambers, burnings at the stake...

|> You technical types are far to narrow minded

No.

|> and cynical.

Yes.

|> You should learn to enjoy life.

I know this must be a troll, but I've greatly enjoyed responding, anyway!

|> Relax, and make peace with god. He transcends all.

<snort> I figured it must be suchwise...

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