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Maximum Angle between Perpendicular BisectorsDate: 06/11/99 at 06:09:03 From: Brecht Hommez Subject: The maximum angle between two perpendicular bisectors Hello Dr. Math, First of all, congratulations on your excellent website. It has already been a great help to me (a Ph.D. student in high energy physics). Right now, I have a very annoying problem and I wonder if there is a solution. Suppose you have two circles with the same radius and they do not intersect. Step 1: Choose a point on each circle and consider the line segment formed by these two points. Then construct the perpendicular bisector of this line segment. Step 2: Repeat step 1, but with different choices of points on each of the two circles. Thus then we have two perpendicular bisectors. Now, my question is: which four points do I have to choose (two points in step 1 and two points in step 2), to obtain the maximum angle between the two perpendicular bisectors? I really hope that you can help me - after days of thinking about this, I couldn't find the answer. Thanks, Brecht Hommez
Date: 06/11/99 at 16:49:22
From: Doctor Peterson
Subject: Re: The maximum angle between two perpendicular bisectors
Hello, Brecht! I'm glad we've been helpful.
We can simplify the problem considerably by ignoring the perpendicular
bisectors, because the angle between the perpendiculars is the same as
the angle between the segments themselves. Then we can consider only
the slope of each segment, ignoring details like where they intersect.
This makes it fairly obvious that the maximum angle will occur when
the two segments are tangent to the two circles, one sloped as far as
possible to the left and the other as far as possible to the right:
***********
*** ***
*** ***
* *
* *
* *
* A *
* + *
* / | \ r *
* / | \ *
P3+ Q+------------+P1
* | x *
*** | ***
\ *** d/2| *** /
\ *********** /
\ | /
\ |y /sqrt((d/2)^2 - r^2)
\ | /
\ | /
\ | /
\ | /
\ | /
\|/
*O
/|\
/ | \
/ | \
/ | \
/ | \
/ | \
/ | \
/ | \
/ *********** \
/ *** | *** \
*** | ***
* | *
P2+ | +P4
* \ | / *
* \ | / *
* + *
* B *
* *
* *
* *
*** ***
*** ***
***********
I don't know in what form you need to find the pairs of points, but we
can see that the segments intersect at the midpoint of the segment
connecting the centers of the circles, and the maximum angle will be
2 arcsin(2r/d)
where r is the radius of the circles and d is the distance between
their centers. The four points will be symmetrical about this point
and about the connecting line.
If you need x and y coordinates of the points, and the circles are in
something like the position I've shown, you can get them from these
similar triangles:
Using APQ and AOP:
PQ OP x sqrt((d/2)^2 - r^2)
-- = -- --- = -------------------
PA OA r d/2
Using POQ and AOP:
OQ OP y sqrt((d/2)^2 - r^2)
-- = -- ------------------- = -------------------
OP OA sqrt((d/2)^2 - r^2) d/2
Let me know if I've misunderstood the problem or if there is more you
need.
- Doctor Peterson, The Math Forum
http://mathforum.org/dr.math/
Date: 06/14/99 at 05:45:38 From: Brecht Hommez Subject: Re: The maximum angle between two perpendicular bisectors Hello Dr Peterson, Thanks for the quick answer to my problem, but ... I 'm still having trouble. In fact, the problem I sent to you was the derivative problem of the original problem. The solution of the derivative problem does not help me further with the original problem and therefore I think it may be wise to send the original problem to you: Suppose you have three circles (call them circle 1, circle 2, and circle 3) with the same radius and they do not intersect. Step 1: Choose a point on each of two different circles (e.g. circle 1 and circle 2) and consider the line segment formed by these two points. Then construct the perpendicular bisector of this line segment. Step 2: Repeat step 1, but with two circles not the same as the circles used in step 1 (e.g. for step 2 you choose circle 2 and circle 3) Step 3: Thus we have two perpendicular bisectors. We calculate the point where they intersect. Let's call this point P. We repeat these 3 steps for a lot of points on each circle and each of the 3 combinations of different circles in step 1 and step 2: Combination 1: Step 1: circle 1 and circle 2 Step 2: circle 2 and circle 3 Combination 2: Step 1: circle 1 and circle 2 Step 2: circle 1 and circle 3 Combination 3: Step 1: circle 1 and circle 3 Step 2: circle 2 and circle 3 I have written a computer program that calculates all these points P and they seem to lie on a polygon with 6 vertices. Now my question is: Is there a way to calculate analytically the (x,y)-coordinates of the 6 vertices of this polygon? Thanks for considering my question, Brecht Hommez
Date: 06/15/99 at 09:04:32
From: Doctor Peterson
Subject: Re: The maximum angle between two perpendicular bisectors
Hello again, Brecht.
Your problem is an interesting one, and I have spent some time
thinking about it. I do not have all the details worked out, but I can
at least tell you the general idea, which may be all you need.
If we consider first only one pair of circles, I have convinced myself
that the locus of the perpendicular bisectors of segments joining
pairs of points on the circles is the interior of a hyperbola whose
semiaxes are r (the radius of the circles) and sqrt(d^2 - r^2) (half
the length of the tangents from my earlier answer; the angle I gave is
the angle between the asymptotes). If the circles of radius r have
their centers at (-d, 0) and (d, 0), the equation of this hyperbola is
x^2 y^2
--- - --------- = 1
r^2 d^2 - r^2
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