Using Conjugates to Simplify RadicalsDate: 08/04/98 at 20:40:54 From: varun Subject: Conjugates of square roots When using conjugates, how do we know when to change the sign? Would the sign have to be changed if we had to rationalize a denominator like sqrt(a+b)? How can we solve this problem: 1/[3+sqrt(3)-sqrt(6)]? Date: 08/05/98 at 12:05:30 From: Doctor Peterson Subject: Re: Conjugates of square roots Hi, Varun. Conjugates are a neat trick, and the best way to see when and how to use them is to think about how they work, rather than just treat them as magic. The basic idea is that we have some expression in the form of a sum: a + b and we want to multiply it by: a - b so that the result will be simpler: a^2 - b^2 The question is, when will this be simpler? It will if both a and b are either radicals or mere numbers. So if you have expressions like: 2 + 4sqrt(3) or 5sqrt(3) - 3sqrt(5) you can simplify them by multiplying them by their conjugates: 2 - 4sqrt(3) or 5sqrt(3) + 3sqrt(5) respectively, so that there will be no radicals left. If you have more than two terms in an expression, you have to decide how to break it up into "a" and "b"; I'm not sure that this is technically a conjugate, but it is the same idea extended. In your example: 3 + sqrt(3) - sqrt(6) there would be no benefit in breaking it up as: [ 3 ] + [ sqrt(3) - sqrt(6) ] since squaring [ sqrt(3) - sqrt(6) ] doesn't simplify it; but we can take a step in the right direction by writing it as either: [ 3 + sqrt(3) ] - [ sqrt(6) ] or as: [ 3 - sqrt(6) ] + [ sqrt(3) ] In each case, the left part ("a") will not simplify when you square it, but the right side ("b") will. You can then gather terms and use a second conjugate to finish the job. Try both ways and see what happens. Now, if your denominator is sqrt(a+b), it just doesn't have the form of a sum, so there is no way to form a conjugate. You could try multiplying by sqrt(a-b), of course, but all you will get is sqrt(a^2 - b^2), which doesn't help at all. So the best you can do to simplify: 1 --------- sqrt(a+b) is to multiply numerator and denominator by sqrt(a+b) itself: 1 sqrt(a+b) --------- = --------- sqrt(a+b) (a+b) I hope that helps. Let me know if you have trouble finishing the solution to your last problem. - Doctor Peterson, The Math Forum Check out our web site! http://mathforum.org/dr.math/ Date: 08/05/98 at 20:18:41 From: Anonymous Subject: Re: Conjugates of square roots Dr. Math, Thank you for helping me out with conjugates. I got that problem from one of my friend's books. But in the book the solution is given as: sqrt(18)[3-sqrt(3)+sqrt(6)] --------------------------- 36 Could you please tell me how I could get this solution? Varun Date: 08/06/98 at 09:16:40 From: Doctor Peterson Subject: Re: Conjugates of square roots Hi, Varun. Let's work through the problem starting with my suggestion that you think of: 3 + sqrt(3) - sqrt(6) as: [ 3 + sqrt(3) ] - [ sqrt(6) ] Its conjugate is then: [ 3 + sqrt(3) ] + [ sqrt(6) ] so we will multiply like this: 1 [ 3 + sqrt(3) ] + [ sqrt(6) ] ----------------------------- * ----------------------------- = [ 3 + sqrt(3) ] - [ sqrt(6) ] [ 3 + sqrt(3) ] + [ sqrt(6) ] [ 3 + sqrt(3) ] + [ sqrt(6) ] --------------------------------- = [ 3 + sqrt(3) ]^2 - [ sqrt(6) ]^2 [ 3 + sqrt(3) ] + [ sqrt(6) ] ----------------------------- = [ 9 + 6 sqrt(3) + 3 ] - [ 6 ] 3 + sqrt(3) + sqrt(6) --------------------- = 6 + 6 sqrt(3) 3 + sqrt(3) + sqrt(6) 6 - 6 sqrt(3) --------------------- * ------------- = 6 + 6 sqrt(3) 6 - 6 sqrt(3) 18 - 18 sqrt(3) + 6 sqrt(3) - 6*3 + 6 sqrt(6) - 6 sqrt(6) sqrt(3) ----------------------------------------------------------------- = [6]^2 - [6 sqrt(3)]^2 18 - 18 sqrt(3) + 6 sqrt(3) - 18 + 6 sqrt(6) - 18 sqrt(2) --------------------------------------------------------- = 36 - 36 * 3 6 sqrt(6) - 12 sqrt(3) - 18 sqrt(2) ----------------------------------- = -72 3 sqrt(2) + 2 sqrt(3) - sqrt(6) ------------------------------- 12 This is the answer I would give. As I predicted, I had to use conjugates twice, and do a lot of simplifying of radicals, but it all came out without too much trouble. I hope this is what you got too, or something close. The book's answer is really not quite in simplest form. Let's see if we can show that it is equal to this answer: sqrt(18) * [3 - sqrt(3) + sqrt(6)] ---------------------------------- = 36 3 sqrt(2) * [3 - sqrt(3) + sqrt(6)] ----------------------------------- = 36 3 sqrt(2) - sqrt(6) + 2 sqrt(3) ------------------------------- 12 which does in fact match my answer. So I'd say the book's answer isn't the best, but it's in agreement with what I got, so I'm satisfied. Sometimes in complex problems like this people can disagree on what is really simplest. We don't argue about it, but just recognize that both answers are equal and both are simpler than the original. - Doctor Peterson, The Math Forum Check out our web site! http://mathforum.org/dr.math/ |
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