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Trisecting an AngleDate: 06/17/2000 at 18:47:06 From: Martin Vatis Subject: Trisecting an Angle I have read most of the literature, including your various answers, that "insist" that an angle cannot be trisected. Nevertheless, I believe I have the solution to this age-old problem. It seems to work on any angle except a right angle. It does not involve any of the problems I've seen described in the literature and is in strict compliance with the use of only a straightedge and a compass. I developed the solution when I was in high school (over 50 years ago) and have worked on it ever since, but have not been able to actually write a proof. So my question is, are there any accomplished mathematicians out there who are willing to take some time to work with me and possibly come up with the mathematical proof? Should I contact a math professor at a local college or university? Can you recommend one? (I live in the San Francisco area.) Thank you in advance. Date: 06/17/2000 at 21:59:19 From: Doctor Peterson Subject: Re: Trisecting an Angle Hi, Martin. I'd suggest you start out by sending us your construction, carefully explained of course, so we can check it out to see whether it either bends the rules in some subtle way, or is not quite precise. We've done this for several others who made similar claims. I can tell you ahead of time, of course, that we will find something "wrong," because it has been definitely proved that it can't be done within the specified rules; but it may still be an interesting construction. The fact that you don't yourself have a proof strongly suggests that it will turn out only to be a very close approximation of a trisection, as the last trisection claim I dealt with was; any true trisection must be proved before one can really even make the claim, since an approximation is not really a trisection at all, as far as math is concerned, no matter how accurate it looks on paper. But we'll be happy to look at it, and if somehow it turned out to be valid, we would have the resources to find a proof. - Doctor Peterson, The Math Forum http://mathforum.org/dr.math/
Date: 06/20/2000 at 15:55:47
From: Mark Gordon
Subject: Re: Trisecting an Angle
Dear Dr. Math:
I am not adept at drawing lines/circles in e-mail, so I will provide
my construction without benefit of a diagram. If you follow the steps
carefully, you will be able to construct the diagram without much
difficulty. Although this works on any angle except a straight angle,
I suggest for STEP 1 you use an angle of about 70 to 90 degrees and
for STEP 2 a circle with radius of about 2 inches:
STEP 1: Draw angle BAC.
STEP 2: From point A, draw circle to intersect line BA at point D
and line CA at point E.
STEP 3: Extend line BDA until it intersects circle at point F.
STEP 4: Extend line CEA until it intersects circle at point G.
STEP 5: Bisect arc DE at point H.
STEP 6: Draw lines GD and FH until they intersect at point I.
STEP 7: Draw lines FE and GH until they intersect at point J.
STEP 8: Draw lines AI and AJ.
STEP 9: Angle BAI = angle IAJ = angle JAC!?!
Please advise.
Thank you,
Martin D. Vatis
Date: 06/21/2000 at 11:51:12 From: Doctor Rick Subject: Re: Trisecting an Angle Hi, Mark. I'm not sure Dr. Peterson has seen your response. He probably has some good things to share with you, but I thought I'd show you what I've found. Interactive math tools such as the Geometer's Sketchpad make it a lot easier to test hypotheses like yours. I drew a figure with Sketchpad, following your algorithm, and had it display the measures of angles BAI, IAJ, and JAC, which should be equal if your algorithm works. Here is the figure: Date: 06/21/2000 at 12:01:38 From: Doctor Peterson Subject: Re: Trisecting an Angle A careful explanation is actually better than a picture in this sort of situation, since it avoids the temptation to make assumptions from the picture; and you did a great job of describing it. Here's a picture of the construction that I made using Geometer's Sketchpad, which allows me to try it out easily for different angles, and even measure the resulting angles:
Date: 06/24/2000 at 11:53:49
From: Mark Gordon
Subject: Re: Trisecting an Angle
Dr. Math:
Thank you for all the time and effort you put into evaluating my
"trisection." It is of course disappointing that it doesn't work. I
may continue to work on a solution, but am becoming convinced that an
angle cannot be trisected. I would someday like to see the proof that
it cannot be trisected.
Again, thanks.
Martin Vatis
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