Trisecting a PizzaDate: 05/13/2002 at 15:58:32 From: John A. Chunko Subject: dividing a pizza into 3 equal slices?? Without the use of a ruler, protractor or other measuring device, is there a simple way to divide a pizza into 3 equal sized slices? Use of a straightedge is okay. If not possible with only a straightedge, then what would you need? A compass? Something else? Date: 05/13/2002 at 17:11:14 From: Doctor Peterson Subject: Re: dividing a pizza into 3 equal slices?? Hi, John. I can't think of a way to do it with just a straightedge, and a compass would get pretty messy on a pizza, though it can be done with compass alone, at least if you know the center. Of course, since a pizza is not an exact circle, you can't really be mathematically precise anyway. I would suggest using a piece of paper. Cut it to the shape of the pizza, and you should have no trouble folding it to get the right angle with reasonable precision. Is that allowed? Or, there is a nice way to fold a rectangular piece of paper to get an exact 60 degree angle, and you could use that to mark out the necessary angles. - Doctor Peterson, The Math Forum http://mathforum.org/dr.math/ Date: 05/14/2002 at 10:35:08 From: John A. Chunko Subject: dividing a pizza into 3 equal slices?? Thanks very much for your time and solution. How do you fold a rectangular piece of paper to produce a 60 degree angle? Date: 05/14/2002 at 12:12:28 From: Doctor Peterson Subject: Re: dividing a pizza into 3 equal slices?? Hi, John. Here is one way (which I learned from an origami book): http://mathforum.org/dr.math/problems/oliver4.26.01.html I'd be interested to know the origin and outcome of your question; it sounds like the paper solution is acceptable. I thought about the question more last night, and had these thoughts: There are two parts to the problem: (a) finding the center of the circle, and (b) finding the right angle. With compass and straightedge, both are easy. With compass only, it has been proved that you can do anything you can do with both (Mascheroni construction), so it can be done somehow, probably with great difficulty. It is also possible to do any such construction with only a straightedge AND a fixed circle with its center! I suspect that means you couldn't find the center of your circle with only the straightedge, but given the center there is probably a way to find the angle. Finally, it has been shown that with a few defined origami moves, you can do any compass-and-straightedge construction, and more, including trisecting an angle! With a paper 60 degree angle, there's a neat way to divide the circumference of the pizza evenly without having to know the center first. Finding the center may actually be harder. - Doctor Peterson, The Math Forum http://mathforum.org/dr.math/ Date: 05/14/2002 at 16:18:38 From: John A. Chunko Subject: dividing a pizza into 3 equal slices?? Thanks... you are terrific! At last, no more fights over the pizza slices! :-) Date: 05/14/2002 at 16:28:08 From: John A. Chunko Subject: dividing a pizza into 3 equal slices?? BTW... your paper folding solution works perfect... the by-product of creating the 60° angle (on the sheet of paper) is a 120° angle formed adjacent to it (i.e., 120° template produced is exactly the correct angle needed for slicing up the pizza into equal thirds.) One thing I couldn't figure out, however... you mentioned, "With a paper 60 degree angle, there's a neat way to divide the circumference of the pizza evenly without having to know the center first." How would that work?... what is the "neat way?" In any case... many thanks for the time and thought you put into the problem! Regards... JC Date: 05/14/2002 at 16:44:09 From: Doctor Schwa Subject: Re: dividing a pizza into 3 equal slices?? I have a guess what Dr. Peterson had in mind... If you put the vertex of the 60 degree angle on the edge of the pizza, then the arc that it cuts off on the other side will be 120 degrees of pizza! The inscribed angle is half the arc. Have you heard of that theorem? Of course, you're then left with the problem of cutting the pizza into three equal pieces once you have three points, 120 degrees apart, marked on the edge of the pizza. If you don't know where the center is, you may still be in trouble. - Doctor Schwa, The Math Forum http://mathforum.org/dr.math/ Date: 05/14/2002 at 16:47:41 From: Doctor Peterson Subject: Re: dividing a pizza into 3 equal slices?? Hi, John. One of my favorite theorems is that an angle inscribed in a circle cuts an arc whose central angle is twice the inscribed angle's measure. So just place the 60 degree angle's vertex on the circumference of the circle, without worrying about what direction it points, and the two legs will divide the circle in a perfect 120 degree arc: ********* ****** /****** *** // *** ** / / ** ** / / ** * / / * * / / * * / / * * / / * * / / * * / / 120 * * / + * * / \ * * / \ * * / \ * * / \ * * / \ * * / \ * ** / 60 \ ** *+---------------------------** *** *** ****** ****** ********* Repeat the process, and you'll have marked the three points on the circumference where you have to cut, even though you don't know exactly where the cuts should meet! There are probably lots of ways to find the center now; one would be to fold the 60 degree angle in half and use the 30 degree angle (measuring inward from the chord between two of the three points) to draw a radius from each of them. These will meet at the center. You probably never knew that origami could be so useful! - Doctor Peterson, The Math Forum http://mathforum.org/dr.math/ |
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