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Two Numbers with Equal Sum, Product, and Quotient?Date: 05/07/2007 at 23:14:15 From: Hannah Subject: (no subject) Find two numbers such that when you find the sum, product, and quotient of the two numbers they are all equal. I think working with 0 and possibly negative numbers might help, and I am thinking that the two numbers must be low numbers. But all of my tries come up with two out of the three being equal, but the third not equal.
Date: 05/08/2007 at 10:12:39
From: Doctor Ian
Subject: Re:
Hi Hannah,
Interesting question. Presumably you just mean one of the quotients,
right? For example, if you have the numbers 2 and 3, there are two
possible quotients: 3/2 and 2/3.
I'd probably start the way you're starting--looking for easy and
obvious answers, involving small numbers.
Of course, this is the sort of case where algebra really comes in
handy! Suppose we call our numbers x and y. The condition to be
satisfied is
x + y = x * y = x / y
which translates to three separate conditions,
x + y = x * y
x + y = x / y
x * y = x / y
Let's try solving the third equation for x in terms of y:
x * y = x / y
x * y * y = x
y * y = 1
Interesting! This tells us that if such numbers do exist, one of them
has to be either 1 or -1. Now we can go back and try the other
equations with those values:
y = 1:
x + 1 = x * 1
x + 1 = x / 1
y = -1:
x + -1 = x * -1
x + -1 = x / -1
Can you find a value that makes each pair of equations true? Or can
you show that this is impossible? Right away, the equation
x + 1 = x * 1
presents a problem:
x + 1 = x * 1
x + 1 = x
1 = 0
So y can't possibly be equal to 1, since that leads to a
contradiction. So either y is -1, or there is no solution.
Can you take it from here?
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