Talk:Eternal Knot

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Response to Checklist

--Chris 12:46, 23 July 2013 (EDT) Good job on the checklist. I added a few notes and changed the text color for the things to do to red.

Messages to the Future

References and Footnotes

No references. No idea where the image came from. Will have to conduct a Google images search to properly source the image. Sourced it. The URL doesn't show up in the page, but under the Edit Under Form tab.--Lpeng1 16:52, 23 July 2013 (EDT)


Good Writing

Context

Could do more to generate interest. This is such a neat way of looking at a knot, need to emphasize that knots are everywhere in real life, but here’s an unconventional way at looking at a knot. Interesting how something so simple as a knot can be seen in a complex mathematical way.

Made quick edits that address the simplicity yet complexity of the knot as well as emphasized the purpose of this page. Both of these edits can be seen in the Basic Description section. --Lpeng1 14:55, 24 July 2013 (EDT)

Quality of Prose and Page Structuring

Beginning paragraph could use a little more work to emphasize analysis of the knot. Done. See blue comment above --Lpeng1 14:56, 24 July 2013 (EDT)

All sections are relevant to the purpose of the page.

Paragraphs make clear what is being discussed.

The more mathematical explanation is structured correctly.

--Chris 12:43, 23 July 2013 (EDT) There needs to be a concluding paragraph.

Integration of Images and Text

Images are integrated smoothly into the text.

In some of the images, it is unclear what the text is referring to. For example, the linear equations could be better labeled in correspondence to the image that follows below. Edited the image containing linear equations to show corresponding labels. --Lpeng1 16:41, 24 July 2013 (EDT)

--Chris 12:33, 23 July 2013 (EDT) I agree. She needs figure numbers for each image, and better references to those figure numbers in the text.

Connections to other Mathematical Topics

Made a good start connecting the Carrick Mat to basic knot theory.

A link to the other knot theory page, Perko Knots could be added.

--Chris 12:26, 23 July 2013 (EDT) I would do this after she describes the Carrick Knot as an 8-18. Kate's page does an excellent job on this. Linked it --Lpeng1 16:56, 23 July 2013 (EDT)

Examples, Calculations, Applications, Proofs

Applications of equations are included when describing the Eternal Knot in mathematical terms.

Mathematical Accuracy and Precision of Language

Equations need to be written in LaTex format. It is unclear for most of the equations what terms need to be squarerooted. Have to rework the equations to figure this out.

--Chris 12:33, 23 July 2013 (EDT) These are fairly straightforward, although her use of the "beginning" of one equation with the "end" of another is challenging to follow.

Formatted all the equations --Lpeng1 17:08, 23 July 2013 (EDT)

Language could be made more precise; it becomes ambiguous. Confused over explanations that started to make use of equations defined in terms of x from equations defined in terms of y. Also, there are “eight equations for the parts of the curve that connect to the square inside. ” But not all 8 equations are derived? Later, confused about how graphing a linear equation helps with finding intersection of complimentary circle? A linear equation isn’t even given.

--Chris 12:33, 23 July 2013 (EDT) She does give the four linear equations right above the fifth image. (under the title "Square.") What would be great to add is how values such as 1.366 (which is the midpoint .5 added to √3/2) is derived to be the y-intercept (and the x-value of the intersection of the circles).

No particular terms were used, so mouse overs weren’t necessary.

Layout

Text is presented in short paragraphs and broken up by relevant images throughout.

For the most part, fine. No funky things showing up.

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