on 11/15/00 7:51 AM, karen jones at firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
> Victor Steinbok wrote: >> >> <I have deleted all but Greg Goodknight and Gerald Von Korff email >> addresses from the CC list> >> >> Greg wrote: >> >>> How many times should each vote be counted? Every Florida precinct has had >>> at least two full counts; some have already been counted four times. >> >> Curiously, each time the stack was recounted, new votes were discovered. >> Apparently some of these ballots have NOT been counted four times, >> otherwise the count would not have changed. >> >>> How has it been proven that the hand count is more accurate than the machine >>> count when the vote is contained on a paper punch card with no particular >>> features? >> >> Having witnessed Greg Goodknight shill out propaganda of his own, why am >> not surprised to find him swallowing the Republican Party absurd >> propaganda? The idiocy of this question and its underlying assumption >> can be demonstrated very easily: remember Minnesota? remember New York? >> remember Indiana? remember Scotland? I am sure there were many more >> machine counting fiascoes (Harcourt paid back California how many >> millions of dollars for their testing errors?), but these four in >> particular stand out as monuments to the dangers of standardized testing >> and machine tabulations of scores. It is ironic that there is a link >> between Bush's stance on standardized testing and his stance on the vote >> recount (neither one is really Bush, but who is counting?!) >> >> Greg, don't forget that the machines are designed by humans, programmed >> by humans and tuned and cleaned by humans. If errors are made along the >> way in machine design and maintenance, the result is an error of far >> greater proportion than anything a single manual counter can create. >> Besides, what would the "Founding Fathers" say? Did THEY have computers >> to tabulate their votes? (BTW, New Hampshire counts ALL its votes by >> hand and it has done so for the past century.) >> >> VS-) > > > Victor, Jerry, et. al., > > Is the name of this forum "mathforum" or "politicalforum"? Is it not > bad enough that our beliefs about what is right for our kids regarding > math differs so fundamentally? Must you all make the divide so much > deeper and wider that all hopes of discourse that could lead to any kind > of progress or understanding are dashed? > > Political beliefs run far deeper than whether ballots should be > recounted, how to do so, and, by the way, where do you stop? You all > know that the "chad challenged" live in only heavily democratic > counties. Or do they? This is nothing short of partisan shrewdness. > Whether I like it or not, I tip my hat to it because of its sheer > brilliance. However, your belief as to whether this is constitutional > or not depends on your fundamental belief as to what has and will make > America great. That is the essence of our political divide, or at least > it should be. > > You guys cannot agree on what math will serve our children the best, > much less be civil about it . How could any of you hope to offer > discourse about politics that is anything but caustic and meaningless? > I am sure that we have both sides (or more) of the political spectrum > represented on this list. Don't give our divide yet another dimension > that could further compromise our ability to further our original > purpose. > > Karen Jones-Budd
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