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Topic: SF: Finally, surrogate factoring
Replies: 86   Last Post: Jun 10, 2006 11:51 PM

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 Rick Decker Posts: 1,356 Registered: 12/6/04
Re: JSH: SF: Finally, surrogate factoring
Posted: Jun 7, 2006 10:51 AM

David C. Ullrich wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 20:54:03 -0400, Rick Decker <rdecker@hamilton.edu>
> wrote:
>
>

>>
>>Tim Peters wrote:
>>

>>>[...]
>>>
>>>What I don't understand is how anything other than that outcome could be
>>>_hoped_ for here. No amount of rearranging and cross-substituting the
>>>initial equations (whatever they may be) is going to yield new information,
>>>and there's never a step that even requires the quantities to be integers
>>>(as opposed to, e.g., arbitrary complex numbers). How can someone imagine
>>>that insight into integer factorization could result from this insight-less
>>>symbol-pushing?

>>
>>I think that what we interpret as obfuscation on James' part is actually
>>a consequence of the fact that his understanding is extremely shallow.
>>This is, I think, the reason that he thinks his "prime counting
>>function" is truly new and innovative--he really is incapable of even
>>the slightest bit of abstraction that to all mathematicians is as
>>natural as breathing.

>
>
> Huh. Ya think?

You missed my point. Until recently I thought that it was James'
narcisism that motivated his jaw-dropping refusal to see that
there was nothing new in his prime-counting function. Now, though,
I have come to the view that he's lacking an important faculty
that all mathematicians have. It's pitiful, really.
>
> Both you guys must be new here.

Hrrumph. Now you're playing the newbie card. I think I'll
>
<snip>

Regards,

Rick

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