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JB

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Re: To all my amazingly (clever/stupid) (stingy/generous) (gifted/pitiable) critics
Posted: Jul 15, 2007 1:08 AM
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On Jul 14, 7:26 pm, rjf <fate...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 14, 5:28 pm, JB <wjb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

First a correction. I meant: Through his efforts, Vladimir is doing
more to raise the
quality of Maple and Mathematica products than anyone
outside of these companies that I know of ...

Why would you know of such people? Someone who has a deep
understanding of these programs and discusses problems and solutions
with the developers need not post the discussion on these newsgroups.
I assure you that such discussions happen, e.g. at the Maplesoft
annual retreat. Or on moderated mailing lists. Or through consulting
arrangements and sabbatical visits. It is unfortunate that you seem
to think that developers depend for their "quality" on the random
repetitive potshots from VB.

We simply disagree rjf. You may be in awe of "Someone who has a deep
understanding of these programs and discusses problems and solutions
with the developers" but that doesn't mean that they report more bugs
or any for that matter. Yes, they need not post the discussion on the
newsgroups but it would be much more efficient if they did. If they
posted the bugs they find, that would take up less of the developers
time which is a very valuable resource. While you are obviously
trying to impress people with the suggestion that important behind the
sciene discussions are going on, for myself I am only impressed that
developers at Maple take the time to give these prima donnas the
special attention that they want. A more professional and business
like situation would be for Maple to have a website where the user
reports bugs and then Maple posts the priority and status of the
problem and action taken/anticipitated. There is nothing that needs
to be hidden here. And if you are referring to yourself as "Someone
who has a deep understanding of these programs and discusses problems
and solutions with the developers" please stop wasting their valuable
time that could be put to better use fixing bugs.



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7/13/07
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Vladimir Bondarenko
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Vladimir Bondarenko
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dimmechan@yahoo.com
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Vladimir Bondarenko
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JB
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dimmechan@yahoo.com
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Thomas Madden
7/14/07
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Vladimir Bondarenko
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Thomas Madden
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JB
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fateman@gmail.com
7/15/07
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JB
7/15/07
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JB
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(gifted/pitiable) critics
Thomas Madden
7/15/07
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JB
7/15/07
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Thomas Madden
7/16/07
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Walter Roberson

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