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 LudovicoVan Posts: 4,165 From: London Registered: 2/8/08
Posted: Mar 10, 2008 7:12 AM

> On 2008-03-10, in sci.math, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > If you take into account the empty set, your system
> can handle
> > paradox without being inconsistent.
>
> You have in mind not the empty set, but rather a
> deep-fried banana,
> have you not?
>
> --
> Aatu Koskensilta (aatu.koskensilta@xortec.fi)
>
> "Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, daruber muss man
> schweigen"
> - Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus
> s Logico-Philosophicus

BTW, here is an extract from a letter from Wittgenstein to Russel, 1921, which I think sheds some light (I'm afraid I'll have to traslate, I've got it in Italian):

"I believe our problems track down to _atomic_ propositions. You'll see it if you try to precisely explain how the Copula is such propositions has meaning. I cannot explain it and I believe that, once an exact answer is given to this question, the problem of <<v>> and of the apparent variable will be _much_ nearer its solution, if not solved. Now I think above <<Socrates is a man>> (the good old Socrates!)."

The good old Ludwig!!

Explaining that meaning, by means of the empty set "we" are, is indeed what I have shown (again, until dis-proved).

Julio

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