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Topic: a little light humor
Replies: 21   Last Post: Jul 11, 2008 1:49 PM

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 Kate Nowak Posts: 47 Registered: 4/6/06
RE: a little light humor
Posted: Jun 29, 2008 7:48 PM
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I would agree with 'mstefano' if the problem said "area", I would applaud them actually putting this question on the test (when was the last word problem that had to be solved with a quadratic on the Math A? I think it was Tamara and her brother James and how old they are, around 4 years ago. remember? I'm pretty sure she ended up being 5 years old.) but it didn't...the solution hinged on the students both reading carefully and knowing that square feet implied area. Should they know it? Yeah. But I still think it was dirty. And then to make sure the fumble wasn't recovered, they did not address this easy-to-foresee error in the scoring guide. I have no doubt that scores for essentially the same error were all over the place on that question.

If you are a stats nerd like me, check out this very engaging presentation that shows how cut scores can be manipulated to tell any story you want: http://www.education.uiowa.edu/tv/talent/stats/index.htm

Kate

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nysmathab@mathforum.org on behalf of msedfun@aol.com
Sent: Sun 6/29/2008 6:22 PM
To: nysmathab@mathforum.org
Subject: Re: a little light humor

On Long Island, many homes have rectangular walkways, where the rectangle is outlined in bricks, and the area within the rectangle is cement.? So if I lived in Long Island, and all the walkways I saw had bricks around the perimeter, might I not assume that although the problem said 54 SQUARE feet of brick, that I might have to find perimeter?? I'm not saying that this is the correct way to interpret a problem, but if SED is giving REAL LIFE APPLICATION - then these kids didn't get a fair shake.

Sharon

And then the thought process is - how could it be a RECTANGULAR walkway if it
is around a garden? Aha! Rectangular means it has the shape of a rectangle.
Much younger students can tell you that.

-----Original Message-----
To: nysmathab@mathforum.org
Sent: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 7:59 am
Subject: Re: a little light humor

And then the thought process is - how could it be a RECTANGULAR walkway if it
is around a garden? Aha! Rectangular means it has the shape of a rectangle.
Much younger students can tell you that.

For those who think the test should be strictly about math and not reading -
part of math is learning problem solving capabilities. Students are not going
to use a lot of this in life (as they always tell me) but they do need to learn
how to think. Solving math problems is partially a reading test. Students must
read and translate English into algebra. I tell them it's another language they
are learning.

If they can't read and translate the problems by the time they get to this
class, the solution is not dumbing down the test. Go back to the root cause and
fix it!
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Date Subject Author
6/18/08 Tom Kenyon
6/18/08 cchuttey@sfcs.k12.ny.us
6/18/08 Bob
6/18/08 Evan Romer
6/18/08 sherry
6/18/08 MathCaryl@aol.com
6/19/08 Holly Thomas
6/26/08 Big1329@aol.com
6/26/08 numb3rs314
6/27/08 L.C.
6/28/08 numb3rs314
6/29/08 Sharon
6/29/08 Kate Nowak
6/30/08 Euclid6675@aol.com
6/30/08 Sharon
7/10/08 Euclid6675@aol.com
7/11/08 Orchanian Robert (12X248)
7/11/08 ElizWaite@aol.com
7/11/08 Tennantij@aol.com
7/1/08 Tom Kenyon
7/1/08 Sharon