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Topic: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs
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Halitsky

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Registered: 2/3/09

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs
Posted: Apr 20, 2012 3:43 PM

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I don't understand the results for fold a1, length 83-92. How can
the coefficient for predictor 1 be > 1 ?

0,0,27,24
0,1,46,152
1,0,30,304
1,1,26,137

Descriptives...

129 cases have Y=0; 617 cases have Y=1.

Variable Avg SD
1 0.6662 0.4716
2 0.4839 0.4997

Iteration History...
-2 Log Likelihood = 687.0506 (Null Model)
-2 Log Likelihood = 651.8668
-2 Log Likelihood = 650.2258
-2 Log Likelihood = 650.2243
-2 Log Likelihood = 650.2243 (Converged)

Overall Model Fit...
Chi Square= 36.8263; df=2; p= 0.0000

Coefficients and Standard Errors...
Variable Coeff. StdErr p
1 1.2937 0.2285 0.0000
2 0.2297 0.2292 0.3162
Intercept 0.6991

Odds Ratios and 95% Confidence Intervals...
Variable O.R. Low -- High
1 3.6463 2.3299 5.7063

2 1.2582 0.8029 1.9717

X1 X2 n0 n1 Calc Prob
0.0000 0.0000 27 24 0.6680
0.0000 1.0000 46 152 0.7168
1.0000 0.0000 30 304 0.8800
1.0000 1.0000 26 137 0.9023

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4/1/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/3/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/3/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/6/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/6/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/6/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/7/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/7/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/8/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/8/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/9/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/9/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/9/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/9/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/9/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/10/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/10/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/11/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/11/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/11/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/11/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/11/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/11/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Art Kendall

4/11/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/13/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/13/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/13/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/14/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/14/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/14/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/14/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/14/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/14/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/15/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/15/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/15/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/15/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/16/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/16/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/16/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/16/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/16/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/16/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/16/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/17/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/17/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/17/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/18/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/19/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/19/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/20/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/20/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/20/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/20/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/20/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/20/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/20/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/20/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/20/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/20/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/20/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/20/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

gimpeltf@hotmail.com

4/20/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

gimpeltf@hotmail.com

4/20/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

gimpeltf@hotmail.com

4/21/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

gimpeltf@hotmail.com

4/21/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/24/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/22/12

Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's program
to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

4/23/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

4/24/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Ray Koopman

4/24/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

4/24/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

4/24/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Ray Koopman

4/26/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Ray Koopman

4/26/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

4/26/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

4/27/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Ray Koopman

4/27/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

4/27/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Ray Koopman

4/28/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

4/28/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Ray Koopman

4/28/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

4/28/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Ray Koopman

4/28/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

gimpeltf@hotmail.com

4/28/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Ray Koopman

4/28/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

gimpeltf@hotmail.com

4/28/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

4/29/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Ray Koopman

4/29/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Ray Koopman

4/29/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

4/29/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Ray Koopman

4/29/12

Your questions go to the "moment of truth" that Jacques and Arthur
may shortly be facing

Halitsky

4/29/12

Re: Your questions go to the "moment of truth" that Jacques and
Arthur may shortly be facing

Halitsky

4/29/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

4/30/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Ray Koopman

4/30/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

4/30/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

4/30/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Ray Koopman

4/30/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

4/30/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Ray Koopman

4/30/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

5/1/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Ray Koopman

5/1/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

5/1/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Ray Koopman

5/1/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

5/1/12

Results for c1 study and control groups when model run WITHOUT the
four cells for shortest length interval 33-42

Halitsky

5/2/12

Results on c2 fold confirm peculiarity of length interval 33-42 seen
in c1 fold results

Halitsky

5/2/12

Model with adjusted weighting logic now works on c2 fold! (but PLEASE
review my new weighting logic !)

Halitsky

5/2/12

Actually, your original suggestion (input counts) works as well as
what I just posted for the c2 fold

Halitsky

5/3/12

Re: Actually, your original suggestion (input counts) works as well
as what I just posted for the c2 fold

Ray Koopman

5/3/12

Re: Actually, your original suggestion (input counts) works as well
as what I just posted for the c2 fold

Halitsky

5/3/12

Comparative results for {lnL,w,lnLw,x1,x2} & {lnL,w,lnLw,x1,x2,lnLx1,lnLx2}

Halitsky

5/4/12

Re: Comparative results for {lnL,w,lnLw,x1,x2} & {lnL,w,lnLw,x1,x2,lnLx1,lnLx2}

Ray Koopman

5/4/12

Re: Comparative results for {lnL,w,lnLw,x1,x2} & {lnL,w,lnLw,x1,x2,lnLx1,lnLx2}

Halitsky

5/4/12

Your question re significance of proportion involving counts of
01:10:01:11 inputs to Arthur's program

Halitsky

5/4/12

Results of both chi-square tests on all six folds

Halitsky

5/4/12

Re: Comparative results for {lnL,w,lnLw,x1,x2} & {lnL,w,lnLw,x1,x2,lnLx1,lnLx2}

Halitsky

5/4/12

I'm sending the a1 CI table off-line, since the format didn't hold here.

Halitsky

5/5/12

Re: I'm sending the a1 CI table off-line, since the format didn't
hold here.

Halitsky

5/5/12

Re: I'm sending the a1 CI table off-line, since the format didn't
hold here.

Ray Koopman

5/5/12

Re: I'm sending the a1 CI table off-line, since the format didn't
hold here.

Halitsky

5/7/12

Re: I'm sending the a1 CI table off-line, since the format didn't
hold here.

Halitsky

5/7/12

Re: I'm sending the a1 CI table off-line, since the format didn't
hold here.

Halitsky

5/8/12

Re: I'm sending the a1 CI table off-line, since the format didn't
hold here.

Ray Koopman

5/8/12

Re: I'm sending the a1 CI table off-line, since the format didn't
hold here.

Halitsky

5/6/12

Re: I'm sending the a1 CI table off-line, since the format didn't
hold here.

Ray Koopman

5/3/12

Could I ask you to check this 1st test using sum of chi-squares from
study vs control cells ?

Halitsky

5/3/12

Re: Could I ask you to check this 1st test using sum of chi-squares
from study vs control cells ?

Ray Koopman

5/3/12

Re: Could I ask you to check this 1st test using sum of chi-squares
from study vs control cells ?

Halitsky

5/3/12

Could I ask you to check this 1st test using converged likelihoods
for study/control/pooled runs?

Halitsky

5/3/12

Re: Could I ask you to check this 1st test using converged
likelihoods for study/control/pooled runs?

Ray Koopman

5/3/12

Re: Could I ask you to check this 1st test using converged
likelihoods for study/control/pooled runs?

Halitsky

5/1/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

4/27/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

4/28/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Ray Koopman

4/28/12

Re: Our first control group result is precisely how we want AML's
program to behave with control group data ....

Halitsky

4/24/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/19/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/20/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/16/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/16/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/16/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/14/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

4/13/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Halitsky

4/8/12

Re: Correct way to normalize an rmsd-based distance metric used in
repeated trials of pairs

Ray Koopman

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