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Topic: Cantor's absurdity, once again, why not?
Replies: 77   Last Post: Mar 19, 2013 11:02 PM

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 mueckenh@rz.fh-augsburg.de Posts: 18,076 Registered: 1/29/05
Re: Cantor's absurdity, once again, why not?
Posted: Mar 19, 2013 4:50 PM

On 19 Mrz., 15:48, fom <fomJ...@nyms.net> wrote:
> On 3/19/2013 7:28 AM, WM wrote:
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> > On 17 Mrz., 07:11, fom <fomJ...@nyms.net> wrote:
> >> On 3/16/2013 10:55 AM, WM wrote:
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> >>> On 16 Mrz., 16:01, fom <fomJ...@nyms.net> wrote:
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> >>>> perhaps you could explain what you mean
> >>>> by "given object" and how an immaterial
> >>>> object can be given.

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> >>> It cannot be given other than by naming it (except from clumsy
> >>> approaches by means of sign language). How to name some numbers, and
> >>> rules how to invent further names, that can be understood by others,
> >>> who were taught the same rules, is taught in school, university and
> >>> other sources.

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> >> What then are some examples
> >> of rules that invent these
> >> further names?

>
> > If 5 and 6 are given, mathematics defines how to produce 11.
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> Who gave you 5 and 6?

My father or mother, I think. But why is that important?
>
> You have rejected classical mathematics.

No.

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> Markov is the example of how to develop "the given"
> for a constructible mathematics based on marks.

I do not need Markov for that sake.
>
> What you expect from your statement is an agreement
> concerning illocutionary acts between language users.
>
> You have stated that repeatedly with regard to the
> nature of how a name comes to have meaning.
>
> But you deny any responsibility for participating
> in an interplay of implicature by which to establish
> such meaning.
>
> What, then, did you come here to teach?
>
> I demand to know the meaning of your terms from
> first principles.

Try to forget what you have learned about mathematics and philosophy.
Start with the four species +,-,*,: and the tables. That is the
foundation from which all sensical mathematics follows. And that is
given. There is no need to try to find principles.

Regards, WM

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