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Topic: Ordinals describable by a finite string of symbols
Replies: 24   Last Post: Jul 27, 2013 12:38 PM

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 David C. Ullrich Posts: 3,555 Registered: 12/13/04
Re: Ordinals describable by a finite string of symbols
Posted: Jul 10, 2013 11:31 AM

On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 16:52:46 +0300, Aatu Koskensilta
<aatu.koskensilta@uta.fi> wrote:

>dullrich@sprynet.com writes:
>

>> Sigh. Taking 'describable' to mean 'describable (definable?) by any
>> String of symbols' makes no sense! Symbols don't mean anything - it's
>> impossible to use a string of symbols to describe anything.

>
> As you say, we must assign some meaning to a string of symbols for it
>to describe anything. There is no well-defined totality of "all possible
>meanings" a string or a set of strings could have, just as there is no
>well-defined totality of "all possible works of art" or "all possible
>attitudes to life" or "all meaningful English sentences", and
>consequently no well-defined totality of all definable or describable
>ordinals. For a language with a mathematically defined semantics -- such
>as given by a truth definition for the language of set theory, analysis,
>arithmetic, ... -- there is such a totality, but, provided we accept the
>definition as legitimate, we can always move to a more expressive
>language, e.g. by introducing a truth predicate.

Nice string of symbols there...

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