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Topic: Re: Are Tenure Track Professors Better Teachers?
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Alain Schremmer

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Re: Are Tenure Track Professors Better Teachers?
Posted: Sep 15, 2013 2:37 PM
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I agree with Mahler's statement below.

At CCP, the collective bargaining agreement specifies the full-time/
part-time ratio. I is around 64% and ferociously under attack by the

On Sep 15, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Phil Mahler wrote:

> I agree with Alain's statement below.
> If there is a conclusion to be drawn from the referenced article it
> is that when one is allowed to focus on teaching, one teaches
> better. I believe that is generally true. Of course this study
> refers to one selective university, but I think the statement is true.
> But the fact that 3/4 of math courses in community colleges are
> taught by non-full-time faculty is problematic in the areas outside
> of the classroom: advising, curriculum development, office hours ? .
> For which I absolutely do not blame these individuals, who, as I
> said, deliver quality instruction. But if they were full-time they
> could be more familiar with curriculum for advising and development
> needs, they would have more contacts with students, they would be
> more involved in general governance.
> The well-being of an institution of higher education at any level
> needs much attention outside of the classroom.
> I find it a shame that more of these individuals in our community
> colleges are not put into full-time positions, with benefits.
> Although I fully understand the reason: economics.
> Phil
> On Sep 15, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Alain Schremmer <

> > wrote:
>> On Sep 14, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Richard Hake wrote:

>>> Scott Jaschik (2013) in his "Inside Higher Ed" report "The Adjunct
>>> Advantage" at <> has pointed to "Are Tenure
>>> Track Professors Better Teachers?" [Figlio et al. (2013) at <

>> This is silly: why should they be?
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