The Math Forum

Search All of the Math Forum:

Views expressed in these public forums are not endorsed by NCTM or The Math Forum.

Math Forum » Discussions » Education » math-teach

Notice: We are no longer accepting new posts, but the forums will continue to be readable.

Topic: Re: To K-12 teachers here: Another enjoyable post from Dan Meyer
Replies: 1   Last Post: Sep 25, 2013 9:29 PM

Advanced Search

Back to Topic List Back to Topic List Jump to Tree View Jump to Tree View   Messages: [ Previous | Next ]
Dave L. Renfro

Posts: 4,792
Registered: 12/3/04
Re: To K-12 teachers here: Another enjoyable post from Dan Meyer
Posted: Sep 25, 2013 2:03 PM
  Click to see the message monospaced in plain text Plain Text   Click to reply to this topic Reply

Richard Strausz wrote:

>> Actually Meyer recommended that teachers look at the writings
>> of another blogger. My first foray resulted in a 'hit' (for me).
>> Check it out geometry teachers:

Wayne Bishop wrote (quoting from the black-boxes blog post):

> The usual trite crap:

** This is, in fact, the exact opposite of how most students experience
** math. Too often, math is an inscrutable recipe book, describing foods
** you?ve never sampled (and probably wouldn?t care to). You must follow
** each recipe to the letter, because you have no clue how the ingredients
** taste, or what will happen if you combine them in new ways. And when you
** finish cooking, you throw the meal in the garbage disposal, and begin again.
> Presenting the quadratic formula, for example, without first thoroughly
> handling completing the square is just bad mathematics.
> Algebra avoidance yet again.

I liked his (the blogger, Ben Orlin) approach with the silly drawings,
but it did strike me that his portrayal of most students experiences
in math sounds more like something coming from the students themselves
than something that actually takes place. Often students just want
to know "how to do the problem" and they are not interested in why
some method works or in alternate methods, both of which are likely
presented by the teacher but go in one ear and out the other without
being processed.

One thing I like about his approach is that rather than immediately lead
up to some all-purpose distance formula, we work each distance evaluation
in the way the formula can be derived: dist^2 = (horiz)^2 + (vert)^2.
Or at least, do it this way for the first day or two of covering it.
Doing this will likely help counteract students' tendency to process
"why explanations" by having them go in one ear and out the other.

Speaking of black boxes, I don't like the way some teachers (and books)
have students solve nonlinear inequalities such as occur in applying
the first derivative test for calculus max/min problems. Say you want
to determine where (x^2 - 2)(x+1)^2 is positive and where it is negative.
The method I don't like has you label the zeros on a number line, then
you pick a point in each (maximal) interval these points form, then you
evaluate the expression (typically using a calculator) at the chosen point
to see whether at that point the expression is positive or negative,
which tells you, by the intermediate value property of continuous
functions, the sign of the expression throughout the interval.

A method that puts you more in charge of the mathematical reasoning
is to label the zeros on a number line, then determine the signs
separately of x^2 - 2 and (x+1)^2 in each of the intervals (each of
which is easy; x^2 - 2 has signs +-+ between its roots from the fact
that the graph of y = x^2 - 2 is a parabola opening upwards that crosses
the x-axis twice), then multiply these signs in each of the intervals
to get the signs of the product of x^2 - 2 and (x+1)^2 in each of the

Dave L. Renfro

Point your RSS reader here for a feed of the latest messages in this topic.

[Privacy Policy] [Terms of Use]

© The Math Forum at NCTM 1994-2018. All Rights Reserved.