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Topic: "Uncle Al" Schwartz caught on video: Blast from the past!
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Lord Androcles

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Registered: 9/25/13
Re: "Uncle Al" Schwartz caught on video: Blast from the past!
Posted: Oct 5, 2013 10:59 PM
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"Tom Potter" wrote in message news:3k34u.13032$I35.11234@fx01.iad...

"Lord Androcles" <71stPigeonHole6thFloor@Rochester.castle> wrote in message
> "Tom Potter" wrote in message news:l2m489$g5q$
> "Lord Androcles" <71stPigeonHole6thFloor@Rochester.castle> wrote in
> message
> news:kVY2u.7620$7g6.4286@fx28.am4...

>> "Tom Potter" wrote in message news:l2hbdo$cpg$
>> "Lord Androcles" <71stPigeonHole6thFloor@Rochester.castle> wrote in
>> message
>> news:opS2u.9534$eW3.4873@fx23.am4...

>>> "Tom Potter" wrote in message news:riN2u.6885$Bi.3553@fx17.iad...
>>> "Lord Androcles" <71stPigeonHole6thFloor@Rochester.castle> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:2bp2u.7477$7g6.3016@fx28.am4...

>>>> "I don't know" -- Michael Moroney wrote in message
>>>> news:l1hisf$bm3$
>>>> "I guess" -- Michael Moroney wrote in message
>>>> news:l1hisf$bm3$
>>>> gamma = 1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
>>>> for v = 0.9994c,
>>>> gamma = 1/sqrt(1-0.9994^2)
>>>> = 28.87184456102242327529861961622
>>>> Clever Michael Moroney agrees!
>>>> Speed of Astronaut in the frame of Sirius = distance /time
>>>> = 8.6 ly / 8.605 years = 0.9994c
>>>> Clever Michael Moroney agrees!
>>>> Speed of Sirius in the frame of Astronaut =( 8.6 * gamma) / (
>>>> 8.605/gamma)
>>>> = 0.9994 * gamma^2
>>>> = 834.7c
>>>> "Nothing can exceed the speed of light"
>>>> Stupid Mickey Moron doesn't like it. Stupid Mickey Moron wants his own
>>>> relativity to replace Einstein's. Stupid Mickey Moron ran away.

>>> gamma = 1/cosine(A) - 1
>>> where cosine(A) is the cosine of the angle
>>> whose sine is velocity(A)/C.
>>> The velocity/C sine function is called beta
>>> and also the fine structure constant.
>>> Considering that the velocity
>>> of electro-magnetic propagation in a medium
>>> ==========================================
>>> What medium is that, Potty? Ectoplasm, the ghost of aether?
>>> -- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

>> Electromagnetic waves convey action
>> from a sources to sinks
>> much like Newton's cradle.
>> Maxwell modeled the transfer very well
>> with his "displacement current".
>> In order to explain how electromagnetic action propagated,
>> Maxwell came up with the concept of "dielectric displacement"
>> =====================================================
>> Yes, we know, aether. Seven years after Maxwell's death Michelson
>> made it redundant, rendering Maxwell's theory of permittivity of aether
>> obsolete. When the substance vanishes its properties vanish too.
>> Your Newton's cradle analogy is a good one; but for a magnetic field,
>> not a displacement current. Had Maxwell lived he'd have modified his
>> theory. When the first ball is raised it has potential energy and no
>> motion, akin to a voltage. When released the PE falls to zero and
>> the KE is at a maximum, akin to a magnetic field. Striking the next
>> ball, the first ball stops dead and the KE is transferred to the next
>> ball which rises. You've got displacement KE, but not displacement
>> current. You can do the same with a chain of transformers, the
>> secondary winding connected to the primary of the next transformer,
>> but the links in the chain are alternating copper loop, iron loop,
>> copper loop, iron loop... with an electric current in the copper and
>> a magnetic flux in the iron. So I'll say again: What medium is that,
>> Potty? Ectoplasm, the ghost of aether? Electromagnetic waves are
>> the alternating fields that exist without the hardware of copper
>> and iron. AND WITHOUT AETHER.
>> Corollary:
>> The velocity of light is source dependent, not aether dependent
>> or observer dependent. Newton's cradle (if you want the analogy)
>> works just the same in the ISS travelling at 17,000 mph and so does
>> MMX.
>> Newton would agree, Galileo would agree, William of Ockham
>> would agree. Throw that gamma shit out, it's for the birds.
>> -- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

> I am saddened to see that my pal Androcles
> did not understand my post,
> which clearly indicated that the AETHER
> is the geometry used to map objects and events.
> Gamma, like geometry, is a useful tool.
> All of Maxwell's tools work very well,
> and if he had stated that
> "The map is not the territory."
> people wouldn't be making such a fuss
> over an AETHER and Relativity.
> --
> Tom Potter
> =========================================================
> A hammer is a useful tool for rivets that Potty uses to drive screws
> without turning them. Rivets join iron, screws join wood. It's a poor
> teacher that can't answer his student's questions. You didn't answer my
> question, so I'll ask a third time: What medium is that, saddened Potty?
> Ectoplasm, the ghost of aether?
> -- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

I am saddened to see
I don't really give a flying fuck how saddened you are, I'll ask a fourth
What medium is that, doubly saddened Potty? Ectoplasm, the ghost of aether?

-- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

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