Date: Jun 1, 1995 11:28 AM
Author: David Scott Powell
Subject: Re: meaningful standards (fwd)

>Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 09:24:32 -0600
> (David Scott Powell)
>Subject:Re: meaningful standards (fwd)

>>Harvey and friends-
>>I was shocked and more than a little distressed this evening while watching a
>>news piece on the MacNeil-Lehrer Newshour. The subject was the seeming
>>success of Catholic schools with minority kids who were previously doing
>>poorly in public school.

>Is this really a surprise? I would think that there are a few more factors
>involved here then just the classroom model. What about class size? What
>about the fact that they are probably not a minority in this school and so
>feel more comfortable? Have you ever taught in a catholic school? I have and
>I know the reason why the behvavior seemed so good is because well they run a
>very tight ship if you know what I mean. I think they would be doing well no
>matter what the teacher had done(standing in front or not)

>>Accompanying the talk by the reporter (which I was totally incapable of
>>understanding since I didn't discover this for myself) were pictures (which
>>were more enlightening.)
>>You know what, Harvey!? Teachers were actually in front of their classes,
>>talking!! And the students were actually listening!!

>This is very interesting. How do you know they were listening? How much of
>this was because the cameras were there and how much was actually really going
> Even raising their

>>hands to answer questions. I've not seen such a blatant attempt at
>>ethnocentrism since our last flag salute at school...about two months ago.

>Does this mean that learning takes place when kids are raising there hands? I
>would be interested to know the question and the responce. I would also like
>to know what the students who didn't raise there hands were thinking.

>>Teachers talking, students listening, actually doing homework, four years of
>>math required. And the absurdity to suggest the kids were learning better.
>>This must be a papal plot to weaken the American child!!

>Dan I am lost here. How do you know these things? What makes this better or
>worse than anywhere else? What sort of situation did these students come
>from? I don't see how this tells us anything about the classroom model.

>>I'm speechless (which will allow for real discovery tomorrow in room 232.)
>>; )
>>Dan Hart
>>LAUSD "Where real reform means cutting the school year down to 163 days and
>>maintaining the Sex Equity Commission"

>Dan, maybe if you would explain with a little more detail I will know how to
>react to this info. I didn't see this last night(McNeil who?)
>I was probably watching Brady Bunch or something much more realistic!!
>Scott Powell

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