```Date: Mar 23, 2013 11:29 AM
Author: mueckenh@rz.fh-augsburg.de
Subject: Re: Matheology § 224

On 23 Mrz., 14:38, fom <fomJ...@nyms.net> wrote:> On 3/23/2013 3:26 AM, WM wrote:>>>>>> > On 22 Mrz., 23:33, William Hughes <wpihug...@gmail.com> wrote:> >> On Mar 22, 11:10 pm, WM <mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de> wrote:>> >>> On 22 Mrz., 22:50, William Hughes <wpihug...@gmail.com> wrote:>> >>>> On Mar 22, 10:42 pm, WM <mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de> wrote:>> >>>>> On 22 Mrz., 22:31, William Hughes <wpihug...@gmail.com> wrote:>> >>>>>> On Mar 22, 10:14 pm, WM <mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de> wrote:> On 22 Mrz., 21:33, William Hughes <wpihug...@gmail.com> wrote:>> >>>>>> <snip>>> >>>>>>>> this does not mean that one can do something> >>>>>>>> that does not leave any of the lines of K> >>>>>>>> and does not change the union of all lines.>> >>>>>>> That is clearHere he tries to cheat the readers. My statement was: That is clearbecause my proof rests upon the premise that actual infinity is ameaningful notion.> >>>>>> So stop claiming your proof> >>>>>> means you can do something> >>>>>> that does not leave any of the lines> >>>>>> of K and does not change the union> >>>>>> of all the lines.>> >>>>> My proof is this: IF there is an actually infinite list of FISONs as I> >>>>> devised it, THEN all lines can be removed without changing the union> >>>>> of the lines.>> >>>> You have shown that any FISON and all preceding> >>>> FISONs can be removed>> >>> given the premise that set |N, the union of all FISONs, is "more" than> >>> every FISON.>> >>>> You have agreed that you have not shown you can do> >>>> something  that does not leave a FISON> >>>> and does not change the union of all the lines>> >>> Yes. And you have approved my proof. But we know both that the result> >>> is wrong>> >> No, we both agree that the result is correct> >> And we both agree that the result does not> >> lead to a contradiction.->> > So you believe that we can remove all lines without changing the> > union?> > Remarkable.>> It is not about beliefIt is. Otherwise the accepted proof should force him to accept theresult too.I have proved: No finite line changes the union of all lines (givenactual infinity, i.e., an infinite line). He has agreed. This impliesthat all finite lines can be removed without changing the union. Hedoes not agree. That is belief in its purest form.Regards, WM
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