On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:26 PM, Joe Niederberger <niederberger@comcast.net> wrote:

Now I have no idea what you are claiming. 

Let me ask you this. You don't see how there is an attribute to this problem that when you go in one direction you are losing ground and when you go in another you are gaining ground or at least holding your own (because this problem is pretty tight)? Many problems have this attribute. That is the "problem solving" strategy I am talking about.

Bob Hansen