On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Robert Hansen <bob@rsccore.com> wrote:
On Mar 7, 2014, at 7:25 AM, kirby urner <kirby.urner@gmail.com> wrote:

> My goal is to change the law to where math credit is available to students who take courses such as those using the Litvins' text and a gazillion other texts that will materialize in response to the opening floodgates to this "new kind of math course".

You mean something like Florida’s current bill?

Yes, exactly.

(d) Courses in computer programming language, such that 1 credit, at the discretion of the local district school board, may satisfy 1 credit in physical education which is required for high school graduation.

Computer programming as PE?   That seems a bit weird.

Don’t ask me how 3D printing got in there. I am picturing a group of shady Department of Education insiders forming a shady front of a 3D printer distribution company whose only client is the Department of Education.

Bob Hansen

Yeah, interesting.  Thanks for sharing that bill.  I wonder what other states have something similar in the docket?


I hope that all students in the U.S. will soon have access to computer science classes in high school. We encourage other states to make computer science count as a math or science credit, just like Washington did yesterday, and Georgia, Missouri, New York, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, Texas and Virginia have done before.


15 May 2013 11:50 AM

Posted by Brad Smith
General Counsel & Executive Vice President, Legal & Corporate Affairs, Microsoft


[ what a horribly formatted page in FireFox at least -- must be for IE people only? ]

So does this mean Oregon has *already* cleared these courses for math credit it seems.  Talk about barking at shadows.


Perhaps my work is done here then, as far has being a high powered lobbyist is concerned? 

Or is the Oregon law just about "making AP computer science count as a math or science course in our state’s high schools".

That's too limited in scope, making CS-enabled math have to be AP and/or "advanced".

Confirming Oregon requires 3 years of math as of 2010:


More study needed, of the specifics....

Table B1 in this report has Computer Math 1 and Computer Math 2, both given really short descriptions in connection with algebra, with no mention of geometry:


Anyway, it's clear we're discussing a trend. 

Things are moving in the right direction at least.