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Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] [ap-calculus] online courses
Posted: May 20, 2011 10:14 AM
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I have a couple students that would be very interested in these offerings...specifically option number 1. I have two sophomores and a handful of juniors that completed AB Calculus this year and have exhausted our math courses at the high school. I know my sophomore needs to do something the next two years and this would be a fantastic option. When will it be up and running????
Cindy Couchman

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Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:57:17 AM
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The North Carolina School of Science and Mathematics has been teaching on-line courses for a number of years to students in NC. We are discussing the need for on-line programs for post-calculus courses for students across the country. No decisions have been made yet, but I do think it is a real possibility, perhaps even for next year, for us to offer on-line courses at a reasonable price. We have a multivariable calculus with differential equations already being taught. There are other courses that we regularly teach to our own students that could be modified (Graph Theory which is our introduction to proofs course, Number Theory, Combinatorics, Complex and Dynamical Systems as examples).

A question to members on the list (please respond off-list to )

If we are able to offer on-line courses at a reasonable price, what course offerings would be of most value to you and your students.

1) A year-long course that completes BC followed by multivariable calculus.
2) Multivariable Calculus taught over a year
3) Multivariable Calculus and Differential Equations as semester courses
4) Get away from the mathematics of continuous functions and teach Combinatorics and Graph Theory (introduction to proofs)
5) Other- please specify

We are also interested in courses designed for you (the teachers). We could design a course that covers the content as well as the pedagogical issues so that you would feel comfortable offering these courses yourself. Would this be of interest, and if so, which courses would be most appropriate.


Daniel J. Teague
NC School of Science and Mathematics
1219 Broad Street
Durham, NC 27705

From: Tara Smith []
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:27 AM
To: AP Calculus
Subject: [POSSIBLE SPAM] [ap-calculus] online courses

Adding to what Ann Powers suggested for Tracy's student who has completed BC Calc and may be closed out of local college courses --

AoPS and eIMACS have gotten very good reviews from highly talented math students.  It's not going to just go on to the next step in the standard college math curriculum (which would be multivariable calc or linear algebra, typically; maybe differential equations depending on what's assumed).  AoPS "standard" curriculum at the moment I believe ends with calculus.  But depending on how much the student has done "laterally" in the curriculum, there may be some great options -- number theory, counting and probability, and also problem-solving courses of a very high level (USAMO prep level) as well as easier (AIME, AMC12).  eIMACS has a great logic / intro to abstract math program, I have heard (really learn to write proofs).  I'm a huge AoPS fan and even without taking courses, the student can join the community and "talk math" with other highly talented and math-passionate kids.

MIT OCW (open courseware) will give access to pretty much anything in the MIT curriculum.  Free.  The downside is that there is no credit or grades or what have you.  So, it depends on what they need.  They may be able to get a tutor from the local univ or CC who would supervise the kid in an independent study for a reasonable fee, perhaps working through the curriculum from a standard course, and have it documented with a letter (on letterhead) comparing what was covered and level of performance with the same course at the univ or CC.  Not ideal, but an option.

There's a person named John Rosasco who does online classes.  I have heard really great things about his linear algebra / differential equations class, although I have no personal experience.  Again, no credit or accreditation.  He also teaches music.  If you google him you'll find his page.

I would seriously recommend Awesome Math Year Round

I know someone with a very, very math talented kid (accepted to MIT, Princeton, Caltech...) who topped out of his school math offerings and did this program last year and was very happy with it.  If I recall my facts correctly, there were a few students in his school in a similar situation or at least quite good in math, so the school bought the year license (around $2000 for up to 6 kids from the same school for the year?)  For an individual it is around $600.  Since it lasts the whole year, it ends up being less expensive than many or most of the other options.  Definitely should be checked out.

The summer math camps Ann mentions:  They are all terrific, but it is really late in the game to be looking at most of them.  I'm sure HCSSiM is full.  Ross might still have space, and it is a favorite of mine -- a producer of many future mathematicians, teaches kids how to "think like a mathematician."  There is also Awesome Math Summer Program (which then gets you a discount on the year-round program); might still have space.  I would expect Math Camp to be full (Canada-USA Math Camp).  If interested, these are all fabulous programs with slightly different emphases, but they need to be looked at "immediately if not sooner" for this summer.  Some of them also have financial assistance that might still be available.

-- Tara S

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