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RE: [ap-calculus] AP Physics C for students without calculus yet
Posted:
Sep 13, 2012 9:46 PM
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Re: ...the physics teacher introduces basic derivative and integral rules
without rigorous development...
Dixie, this is not a new dilemma - we had to deal with it back in the 60's
and 70's.
Regards,
John Hanna
jehanna@optonline.net
www.johnhanna.us
T3 - Teachers Teaching with Technology
"the future isn't what it used to be."
-----Original Message-----
From: Dixie Ross [mailto:Dixie.Ross@pflugervilleisd.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:24 PM
To: AP Calculus
Subject: RE: [ap-calculus] AP Physics C for students without calculus yet
Most of our kids who do physics C are co-enrolled in Calculus BC. It does
bug me that the physics teacher introduces basic derivative and integral
rules without rigorous development. They know HOW, but not WHY. If he were
to re-arrange his topics slightly, it wouldn't be a big deal because we will
have covered all of the calculus he will need fairly early in the year. We
basically maintain peaceful co-existence and the kids know that I expect
them to learn the math to a much deeper level. What math he needs, he
teaches as it comes up. When I sometimes get to it later, the kids'
lightbulbs go on and they say "Oh! That's what he's been going on about!!"
We have good AP results in both subjects in a very diverse, working class
high school.
dixie
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From: Cynthia E. Chin [cchin@madison.k12.wi.us]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:14 PM
To: AP Calculus
Subject: [ap-calculus] AP Physics C for students without calculus yet
Do any of you teach in schools which permit students to enroll in AP Physics
C (calculus-based) without prior completion of Calculus ABbc?
If so, what preparation do you provide (or require students to obtain
independently)?
Is Physics offered in the fall or spring semester? Is there a requirement to
be concurrently enrolled in either Calculus AB or BC?
We've done some hasty front-load supplementing for the few students this
affects at our school (AP Physics is relatively recent here), but would like
to investigate whether a more systematic intervention is in order.
My counterpart in physics will ask her AP community, too. I'm looking for a
calculus perspective because I feel like this affects the way the AB course
"develops" for these students if they learn all the nuts and bolts in a very
compressed span of time. Also because I suspect that the task of
supplementing falls to the calculus instructors in at least some schools.
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