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Topic: The Diagonal Argument
Replies: 28   Last Post: Dec 29, 2012 12:11 AM

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 george Posts: 800 Registered: 8/5/08
Re: The Diagonal Argument
Posted: Dec 26, 2012 3:47 AM

On Dec 26, 12:28 am, Graham Cooper <grahamcoop...@gmail.com> wrote:
> it fails because with Infinite Sets of Reals
> You can alter the Number Order
> To change the digit back!

THAT DOESN'T CHANGE anything!
You can permute the list of reals ANY WAY YOU LIKE.
That will give you A DIFFERENT anti-diagonal and thus a DIFFERENT new
number
but NEITHER THE NEW ANTI-DIAGONAL NOR THE OLD ONE will be on EITHER
list!
Obviously permuting the list does NOT change the answer to ANY
question of the
form "is x on this list?". It might change WHERE it is, if it's on
there,
but it does NOT change the answer to "yes it is" or "no it isn't".

> Its like putting a coin on a 2UP paddle
> and giving it a one way opposing flip.
>
> Null Operation as you just flip it twice!

That's just ONE DIGIT, DUMBASS. THE ISSUE is about THE WHOLE
new anti-diagonal. Changing the list does NOT change ANY digits of
the OLD
ORIGINAL anti-diagonal. It gives you a NEW list with a NEW anti-
diagonal.
Which is ALSO NOT ON the list.
The issue in any case IS NOT EVEN WHETHER "the argument fails".
The issue is whether the anti-diagonal IS OR IS NOT ON the list.
And it is OBVIOUSLY NOT ON IT since it differs from EVERY real on the
list.

Date Subject Author
12/26/12 Graham Cooper
12/26/12 Virgil
12/26/12 george
12/26/12 Virgil
12/26/12 Graham Cooper
12/27/12 Graham Cooper
12/27/12 Virgil
12/27/12 Graham Cooper
12/27/12 ross.finlayson@gmail.com
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12/28/12 Virgil
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