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Topic: how to unify Hund's Rule with electron ecliptic Chapt15.59
electrons-ecliptic-plane #1354 New Physics #1557 ATOM TOTALITY 5th ed

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how to unify Hund's Rule with electron ecliptic Chapt15.59
electrons-ecliptic-plane #1354 New Physics #1557 ATOM TOTALITY 5th ed

Posted: May 8, 2013 3:52 PM
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On May 7, 9:55 pm, Archimedes Plutonium
<> wrote:
> Now one of my favorite chemistry textbooks was CHEM ONE by Waser,
> Trueblood, Knobler 1980 where it shows an iceberg on the front cover.
> On page 307 it shows a DeBroglie waves for permitted and prohibited
> orbits.
> Now I want to use that picture to start the mind of logic to thinking.
> Now suppose we all accepted Old Physics that would have the electrons
> not in a electron ecliptic, but rather have the electrons at all sorts
> of angles in 3rd dimension. In my last post I proved how random angles
> outside the ecliptic plane would violate the Minimum Principle that
> Feynman was so adamant about.
> So what I am doing here is pointing out the geometry that electrons
> must be in an ecliptic plane to minimize energy of orbiting the
> nucleus, and that should a photon come along and excite and electron
> to move to a higher orbit or should an electron emit a photon and move
> into a lower state orbit, that the electron will travel the minimum
> path. The electron cannot travel a minimum path if the electrons were
> orbiting at random angles, because successive orbits in a planar
> ecliptic have a minimum constant distance of separation.
> Now this is likely to lead to an experiment of electrons moving from
> one orbit to another orbit that we should be able to tell if two
> successive orbits have a constant separation distance. If the orbits
> were random angles, then the separation distance is a variable. Now I
> do not know if we have a precision enough experiment to tell us if the
> separation distance of two successive orbits is a constant or a
> variable. However, there maybe already some phenomenon of physics,
> such as say polarization or photoelectric effect or that diamonds
> sparkle, that already is dependent on the fact that the separation
> distance is always a constant for two successive orbits.

Now Waser, Trueblood and Knobler simply call the DeBroglie wave on
page 307 as a "matter wave". But I suspect that no-one ever in their
chemistry classroom raised the question of why is this transverse
matter wave so very much different from the transverse EM wave of Old
Physics of their single transverse wave? Now of course, no student or
teacher of physics or chemistry knew of a Double Transverse Wave for
it was discovered by me in 2012 and is totally new to physics and

But this raises the question of why and how would physics and
chemistry have three different types of transverse waves:

1) Matter wave of DeBroglie
2) Single transverse wave of Old Physics
3) Double Transverse wave

Single transverse wave is depicted as such:


Double Transverse wave is depicted as such:

M+ M-

Matter wave is depicted as thus:


Now how can I unify or bring together these three different transverse

Well, we need the Double Transverse Wave for the photon in order to
maintain same speed of light regardless of frequency or wavelength and
this is brought about by destructive-interference.

So that leaves me with explaining how to unify Matter Waves with
Single Transverse Waves.

Before I do that, let me bring into the picture the fact that
electrons in suborbitals pair up with a up and down electron following
Hund's Rule (page 328 of CHEM ONE).

Now in astronomy do we have a Hund's Rule? Do we have ever, two
planets in the same orbit around the Sun? Perhaps at one time the
Asteroid Belt was a application of Hund's rule in which the two
planets eventually collided and now form the rubble. And perhaps in
the exoplanets that astronomers discover almost weekly, that several
of them have evidence of two planets in the same orbit, only that the
astronomers are thinking just one planet is going around at twice the

So, how can I unify the Matter Wave with Single Transverse Wave?

Well, let me bring in another key feature. In that the electron in an
atom orbit is **perpetual motion** and that is the same as the photon
with no rest-mass. Yet we all know the electron has 0.5 MeV rest-mass
and worse yet the proton with perpetual motion has
938 MeV.

Well, I think I can rectify all of this by saying the photon
definitely has the Double Transverse Wave
while the Matter Wave and the Single Transverse Wave when combined is
a Double Transverse Wave.
Where we have this formula:

Double Transverse Wave = Matter Wave unioned with Single Transverse

Now I need a third item, as the idea that waves are of two types--
transverse or longitudinal. So that a Matter Wave is transverse but a
Single Transverse Wave is actually a transverse wave inside, but
outside is a longitudinal wave covering.

So picture the DeBroglie Matter Wave on page 307 and picture a
longitudinal wave of magnetic monopoles covering the transverse matter

In this manner we have a E- matter wave of the electron orbiting a
nucleus and its orbit involves space being magnetic monopoles of M- or
M+ as a medium in which the E- orbits.

So we have the Electron as a skewed or partial double transverse wave
of this:

M- M+

And that partial double transverse wave allows for destructive-
interference so that the speed is a constant speed of perpetual

So now, we have another question, how does the second electron in a
suborbital fit with the first electron of Hund's Rule? In astronomy we
would think that the two planets in identical orbits would be spaced
about 1/2 way apart, so that one planet would be in summer while the
other in winter in their orbital path.

For electrons, it would be different in that the entire first electron
is a matter wave and the entire second electron would be a
longitudinal wave of magnetic monopoles. This is perhaps the reason
for Hund's rule is the small energy needed to convert a matter wave
into a longitudinal wave that the second electron must convert to.

So the first electron is

E- single transverse wave

and the second electron is also that, but upon conversion is

M- M+ longitudinal wave

and as the two obey Hund's rule of shared up and down electrons they
end up as

M- M+ where they are a mix of transverse moving in longitudinal wave.

Sounds terribly complicated, but it satisfies those three constraints
listed-- unify, perpetual motion, Hund's rule.


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Archimedes Plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

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